GTX 1650 vs 1650 Ti - Worth Paying More For Ti?

JT JT 30 December 2020
GTX 1650 vs 1650 Ti - Worth Paying More For Ti?

The performance gap between Nvidia’s GTX 1650  and GTX 1660 Ti was so big that they had to   try and fill it with the 1650 Ti. Unfortunately  the 1650 Ti doesn’t do a very good job of this,   it doesn’t actually perform that much different  than the 1650, so is it worth paying more for?  

I’ve compared both in 20 games and  applications to show you the differences.

GPU spec differences

GTX 1650 vs 1650 Ti - Worth Paying More For Ti?Comparing the GPU specs side by side can  be confusing. The Ti can potentially be the   same as the lower non Ti version that came out  first. Both can have the same CUDA core count,   clock speed ranges can be a little  different, and the memory can be the same. Notice I said “can” a lot there.  There are some important caveats,   older 1650s can have slower GDDR5 memory and  that’s not going to be something listed in   the laptops spec sheet alongside 1650. The  CUDA core count of the 1650 can also differ,   again something you won't see in the spec  sheet, and the power limit will also differ.

Basically this means you don’t really know  what you’re getting when you pick a 1650   laptop unless you check reviews  first, so performance could vary.

Laptops used for testing

The two laptops I’m testing here  are the Acer Nitro 5 with GTX 1650,   and Lenovo IdeaPad Gaming 3 with 1650 Ti.GTX 1650 vs 1650 Ti - Worth Paying More For Ti? These are the exact specs of the graphics of  both laptops that I’m testing,   so note that my 1650 does not have the “up to”  1024 CUDA cores that Nvidia specify. Both of mine   do otherwise have the same 50 watt power limit,  and both of my laptops also use GDDR6 memory.

Ideally I’d be using the exact same laptop with  just a GPU change, but unfortunately I wasn’t   able to make that happen. Both of these laptops  still have the same 6 core Ryzen 5 4600H processor   and 16gb of DDR4-3200 memory in dual channel,  and considering that I’m going to be focusing   on higher setting presets in games which are  typically more GPU bound, we should still be   in for a pretty fair comparison, so with that  out of the way let’s get into some results.

20 games tested

Red Dead Redemption 2 was tested using the  game’s benchmark. GTX 1650 vs 1650 Ti - Worth Paying More For Ti?The 1650 Ti was less than   three FPS higher than the non Ti, so not too  much difference at all, yet this is still one   of the largest performance differences out of  the games covered, with the Ti almost 8% ahead.GTX 1650 vs 1650 Ti - Worth Paying More For Ti?Control was essentially the same on both.  Technically the non Ti 1650 was ahead,   but it’s less than half a frame which is  definitely within the margin of error range. GTX 1650 vs 1650 Ti - Worth Paying More For Ti?Apex legends was less than 4 FPS ahead  on the 1650 Ti with all settings at max,   which was an above average difference,  putting the Ti around 5% faster in this game. GTX 1650 vs 1650 Ti - Worth Paying More For Ti?Battlefield 5 saw the largest difference  out of all 20 games with the Ti 16%   ahead of the non Ti in  average FPS at ultra settings. GTX 1650 vs 1650 Ti - Worth Paying More For Ti?CS:GO typically depends more  on the CPU rather than GPU,   so it wasn’t a surprise to see the smallest  difference out of all games tested here.

Average differences over all 20 games

GTX 1650 vs 1650 Ti - Worth Paying More For Ti?The Nvidia GTX 1650 Ti was less than 5%  faster than the GTX 1650 on average out   of the 20 games that I’ve tested. As we can  see, results can vary significantly by game.   Some outliers include Fortnite and Control  which were slightly ahead on the 1650 non Ti,   but the difference in Fortnite was like  2 FPS and control was less than 1 FPS,   so it’s still about equivalent performance.  Battlefield V was a bit of an outlier though,   scoring 16% higher on the 1650 Ti.

Honestly  I’m surprised the difference was even this big   given both had the same power limit and the GPU  specs are otherwise the same.

If my 1650 laptop   happened to have the same 1024 CUDA cores as the  1650 Ti, the difference would be even smaller.   On the other hand if my 1650 was an older GDDR5  model, then the difference would be a bit larger.

GTX 1650 vs 1650 Ti - Worth Paying More For Ti?I’ve also tested FireStrike and TimeSpy  from 3DMark, and the 1650 Ti was just   6% ahead in the Timespy graphics score, and  less than 5% ahead in firestrike graphics score,   so similar to some of the games  and not much of a difference. GTX 1650 vs 1650 Ti - Worth Paying More For Ti?I’ve also tested SPECviewperf which tests  various professional 3D workloads. The 1650   Ti was ahead in most cases, but the margins could  vary significantly depending on the specific test.

Price differences

Prices of these GPUs are going to vary  entirely based on what laptop they’re in. It’s really hard for me to fairly compare price,   and not just because of all those issues mentioned  earlier with the 1650 having different options.   A lot of the 1650 Ti models also offer things  like extra storage, which will be a factor in   the total overall cost difference.

The best example I could find was   the Lenovo Legion 5, as they let you simply  select which of these two GPUs you’d like.   The 1650 Ti is $50 USD more than the 1650 at  the time of recording this video in late 2020. Most other examples I found were  closer to a $100 difference,   so the $50 difference in the Legion  5 seems to be more of a best case.   The Legion 5 was $810 with the 1650, or $860  with the 1650 Ti, so around 6% more money for   the Ti, which is a similar margin to the  average performance boost seen in games.  

1660 Ti instead?

But when we consider you can probably get a  1660 Ti laptop with better processor on sale,   paying more for the 1650 Ti may be harder to  justify, as I’ve found the 1660 Ti to perform   around 50% faster in a similar selection of games  when compared to the 1650, a much nicer increase.GTX 1650 vs 1650 Ti - Worth Paying More For Ti?

Is 1650 Ti worth it?

Ultimately, I think the 1650 Ti fails  to deliver on what it was meant to,   it doesn’t really do a good job of filling  in the gap between the 1650 and 1660 Ti,   it appears that Nvidia just turned  up the power limit a little.   There’s no way I’d consider spending $100  more to upgrade from the 1650 to the 1650 Ti. The confusion between the older 2019 1650 and  newer 2020 1650 is also confusing for consumers.  

Basically you don’t really know what level of  performance you’re going to get from the 1650.   It just feels a little dodgy to keep  the same name and change it a bit. In this testing I have of course  focused on using higher setting presets,   as these are typically more GPU bound, and  this is a GPU comparison. You can of course   get much higher FPS than what I’ve shown in  this video by turning settings down a bit.

I’ve actually tested both of these  laptops in 20 games at all setting   levels if you want to see how they  perform with different settings.

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